This has been a interesting thread today. I have enjoyed and learned a lot and no arguing. Thank You to everyone......you all are a breath of fresh air.....
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The real question this drives is why is Muncie’s mayor willing to expose herself and her family to such a negative environment, yet the city of Anderson’s mayor appears unwilling to even consider doing so?
It probably makes sense to compare the two cities in order to be able to arrive at any type of conclusions surrounding the answer to that question. ...
So once again we have to ask why is it that the figurehead for Muncie has chosen to initiate the hard decisions and tackle them head on, while the figurehead for the city of Anderson is not?
Within the context of a conversation with a friend yesterday afternoon this very question came up, and one of the possible drivers behind a potential answer may be found within the differing backgrounds between the two figureheads it would seem. (Political rancor and sour grapes aside please).
Mayor McShurley of Muncie comes from a background that includes working for Ball State, where she earned a BS in marketing, as a clerk for the City of Yorktown, and consulting with local firms.
Mayor Ockomon of Anderson has a background in law enforcement. (Any further details anyone?)
Both are fairly new to managing city government, so let us just set aside the rookie mistakes both have committed. Both took office amid a heated election process and campaigns filled with no small amount of mudslinging and legal posturing.So why is there such a marked difference in approach toward adapting the operation of city government to the declining revenue streams?
Could it be that the one coming from a background in law enforcement is doing whatever is necessary not to enact cuts within law enforcement and fire because of his ties to them?
I certainly do not want any knee jerk reactions surrounding those departments within city government that exist to ensure public safety and wellness, but when cities of similar size and capacity are finding it necessary to enact such cuts in order to conduct the day-to-day business of government within a fiscally responsible manner, one has to ask some hard questions when it doesn’t happen at home.
Maybe there are other areas that can and should be cut first, but what are they and who is looking into them? And how? And why are the citizens of Anderson being asked to pay more for services before a reduction of headcount in all possible areas of local government?
How much of the difference is attributable to the fact that Mayor McShurley is a Republican in an overwhelmingly Democrat town, trying to deal with in-house unions, and that Mayor Ockomon is a Democrat who has sprung from the ranks of these self-same unions? That might be one of the strongest explanations for the differences, imo.
There are two distinct classes of men - those who pay taxes and those who receive and live upon taxes. - Thomas Paine
I heard this evening that Okomon also some how kept his spot in APD. So if he does not get re-elected he has a job to fall back on. How many other people can leave one job and somehow keep it to cover their butt in case they screw up on the second job? I know Lil Kevin did it and I thought it was wrong when he did it. Some how that policy needs to be stopped!
I wonder if it's true for everyone at APD that they can take a LOA, and under what conditions? Is it in the contract somewhere that if you become mayor you have a special dispensation?
There are two distinct classes of men - those who pay taxes and those who receive and live upon taxes. - Thomas Paine
The police union took a no wage increase for 2010 in their new contract. The ASFME union (Street, CATS, Parks, Sign and Sewer) also agreed to no wage increase for 2010. There are 4 other unions yet to make that decision.
I would love for someone from the city admin to take a few minutes and come on here to explain to us what the Mayor (and Council) has done to cut expenses.
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NANA OF ONE KPAUL CAN'T MAKE ALL HAPPY SO MAKE SOME
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kpaul.mallasch great meet-up tonight. hope you can make the next one!
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Zia hopes that everyone who attends tonights meet-up has a good time.
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jacquline i think moderators are doing a good job, there is no fighting. things get off topic but get back on them pretty fast.
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andersonbrent moderators are already not doing anything! What a joke that was.
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Irish Fan NOBODY puts Baby in a corner! Who blinked?!
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Bard "They're a bit like chicken fillets really. You can hit people with them!" -talking about her temporary breast implants for Pirates - Keira Knightley
Hey LRA, PM me as I need to talk to you. Just got off the phone with another councilman.
This has been a interesting thread today. I have enjoyed and learned a lot and no arguing. Thank You to everyone......you all are a breath of fresh air.....
Like stars across the sky … . E per avvincere ….. Tu dovrai vincere ...
We were born to shine …All of us here because we believe......
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The real question this drives is why is Muncie’s mayor willing to expose herself and her family to such a negative environment, yet the city of Anderson’s mayor appears unwilling to even consider doing so?So once again we have to ask why is it that the figurehead for Muncie has chosen to initiate the hard decisions and tackle them head on, while the figurehead for the city of Anderson is not?
Maybe there are other areas that can and should be cut first, but what are they and who is looking into them? And how? And why are the citizens of Anderson being asked to pay more for services before a reduction of headcount in all possible areas of local government?
How much of the difference is attributable to the fact that Mayor McShurley is a Republican in an overwhelmingly Democrat town, trying to deal with in-house unions, and that Mayor Ockomon is a Democrat who has sprung from the ranks of these self-same unions? That might be one of the strongest explanations for the differences, imo.
- Thomas Paine
I heard this evening that Okomon also some how kept his spot in APD. So if he does not get re-elected he has a job to fall back on. How many other people can leave one job and somehow keep it to cover their butt in case they screw up on the second job? I know Lil Kevin did it and I thought it was wrong when he did it. Some how that policy needs to be stopped!
I wonder if it's true for everyone at APD that they can take a LOA, and under what conditions? Is it in the contract somewhere that if you become mayor you have a special dispensation?
- Thomas Paine
Sure would be interesting to find out would it not be. Lil Kev got by with it so I guess they all can.
Well people this battle is over. It passed 5-4
David Eikes, Rodney Chamberlain, Art Papela, Mike Welch voted against
the other people tat don't care about the tax payers voted for.
TAXES = NO GROWTH
Isn't Artie the only Rep on that list?
- Thomas Paine
Mike Welch and Art are the only 2 republicans on the council
TAXES = NO GROWTH
Welch is a republician.
The police union took a no wage increase for 2010 in their new contract. The ASFME union (Street, CATS, Parks, Sign and Sewer) also agreed to no wage increase for 2010. There are 4 other unions yet to make that decision.
I would love for someone from the city admin to take a few minutes and come on here to explain to us what the Mayor (and Council) has done to cut expenses.
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