I need your opinion!

Submitted by Tobi Jones on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 5:13pm.

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OK folks, I need your opinion please.  Don't hold back, (but don't be rude), please tell me what you really think.

 

IF ACS were going to face a major budget shortfall due to the changes in property tax laws and decreasing student population, and IF ACS were going to have to make some major changes....

Would you as a student, parent or tax payer rather see smaller neighborhood schools with larges class sizes due to laid off teachers....

or

..larger buildings with more but smaller classes due to no laid off teachers.

 

I see the advantage of a neighborhood school, close to home, community atmosphere etc.

I also see the advantage of a larger school, more technology, more access to specialized services to students in need or advanced students, full time nurses in every building etc...

 

So, what do you think ACS should do IF ever, in the imaginary future, we were facing budget shortfalls.


President Just a member of ACSC Board of Trustees


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 5:23pm

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Does this mean that the rumors about closing smaller schools like Southview are really a possibility for next year? That would also mean that some of those kids will be redistricted for second time, meaning this could be the third time that some have changed schools without moving.


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 5:31pm

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I am not confirming any rumors.  I am saying IF we needed to make changes, and IF a board member was asking you your opinion, what would you say?  (honestly, I don't know where we will end up on this, but I do know that we must have public input no matter what, so I am starting here)


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 5:42pm

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I know that there are already too many children registered at Southview, therefore all of the kindergarten and at least one first grade class are being sent to Valley Grove, which I think is too stressful on kids that are 5, 6, and 7. I think it is unfair to the kids that go to the smaller schools to throw them into a big school. I have seen a big school and a small school first hand, I know how each school operates, I understand Southview does not have a school nurse all of the time, but then again is one needed all of the time? Could that job be handled by the secretary? I don't have a clue what the state guidelines are for that, so I am only guessing, maybe the school personnel could be trained for emergency situations? Would moving the school nurses role to other people in the school save money?


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 5:53pm

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Secretaries already fill in when the nurse is at another school.  HOneslty, nursing salaries will not make a big enough difference to help.  We are talking big time here.  Lay off or close buildings?


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 5:59pm

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Tobi,

I think much of ACSC's problems started when they started closing neighborhood schools. I can remember how many time Brentwood Elementary's name and function changed. Most thriving communities prefer neighborhoold schools; take a look at Hamilton County, nearly every group of new subdivision in the last 15 years have chosen neighborhood schools to the extent that many have a sidewalk easment at the rear of their lot leading to the school. I think special needs children should be in every elemetary so children have an opportunity to see people with special needs. Kendrick was a nightmare and Long was even worse; we all know you can't educate children in old schools, look at the idiots that come out of Harvard and Yale! I think the neighborhood schools with help with the socioeconomic problem that exist when you place children in an environment where other children's parents may be better of financially.


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 5:59pm

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Either way our children are the ones that suffer, and when I sit here each night and listen to the police scanner I have to seriously wonder what is going on, there are constanly calls to APD for children, ages 10-16, that are out of control and parents cannot handle them, so if you add changes to these kids lives, then they are just going to have more problems. I listen to the kids we pick up each week on the church van and realize that we are the only stability that these kids have, so now you are saying that our church really will be the only thing these kids can always count on.  


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 6:08pm

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Tobi,

I also think the state needs to allow the school system to take money from the building fund and apply it towards upkeep and mantainience. The current law discourages upkeep and repairs on older building. Edgewood Elem was built in 1976 and it's one of the older elementary schools in the city, but if the average Joe had an abode build in 1976 it would be considered a newer home and it would be unheardof to abandon a 32 year old home nearly anywhere, with few exceptions where it's highest and best use would be for  economic development reasons.


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 6:10pm

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The city has already built the large school. I don't think there is a choice to be made unless you plan on closing the big ones down and building smaller neighborhood school.  Also I know first hand we have empty classrooms in the big schools.  I don't think a lot of choice is left. We can't keep paying for dinosaurs that cost a lot to heat and maintain. If the school is no longer efficient and we can't keep them up close them. the children have survived moves before mine have. IMO  who knows maybe in one general location you will get more parents to help..I doubt this but is sounded good.


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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 6:19pm

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Thu, 11/06/2008 - 6:29pm

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Since I am a parent of one of the schools that MAY be affected by this conversation, I can honestly tell you I would rather keep my kids in a larger school with a smaller child to teacher ratio.  IF they close the school in question here will the parents be notified before the start of the following school year?  I have heard rumors of this since we moved into this house and to be honest I love my kids' school, my kids' teachers and as a mother of a special needs child who benefits from more one on one than that is my opinion IF it was to happen..


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