ACS Should Forgive The Bell's Debt...

Submitted by OldWiseOne on Thu, 12/27/2007 - 7:08pm.

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A voluntary payment plan, as has been suggested, will not work. There is no need to bankkrupt this family, or thin out their budget any more so. Certainly they should not have sued without knowing the law and the legal system, but this end result will not be fair for a lot of undeserving people, mainly children.


“Fear not the soul of a poet, for it is yours to develop, to keep, and to use.” Words of OldWiseOne, 2007.


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Thu, 12/27/2007 - 7:33pm

Colts Fan
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They knew what they were getting into when they started it. If they didn't they should have never started this fight. People are quick to use the children when there is nothing else.

No ACS should not forgive the debt, as they walk away laughing. 



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 7:33pm

CC-Gal
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Make them pay. He's taking me back to court and demanding I pay HIS attorney fees on divorce based issues knowing full well my year long struggle with my finances.. I just got the summons today. I have no sympathy for him, and my kids will not suffer. They have me as well as him.



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 7:52pm

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Colts Fan wrote:

They knew what they were getting into when they started it. If they didn't they should have never started this fight.

CF, I am sure they did not know that ACS would remove the case to federal court, where the rules are different and stricter. This is exactly why ACS went to federal court -- to show the Bells how helpless they really were. Even though you do not agree with their argument about uniforms, many things in America have resulted from people utilizing the court system to right perceived wrongs. All any of this means is that when You, personally, have a good claim against ACS, you will now feel chilled and scared to take them on. ACS is not always right, so what happens if you cannot afford a lawyer to help you -- you do it yourself, and you do the best you can. I am trying to look at this objectively, because I, too, thought that uniforms were a dandy idea.

“Fear not the soul of a poet, for it is yours to develop, to keep, and to use.” Words of OldWiseOne, 2007.



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 7:55pm

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CC-Gal wrote:
Make them pay. He's taking me back to court and demanding I pay HIS attorney fees on divorce based issues knowing full well my year long struggle with my finances.. I just got the summons today. I have no sympathy for him, and my kids will not suffer. They have me as well as him.

CC, when is the last time you had a raise in support? What was that summons about? I know these are personal questions, and if you did not respond to them, I would not be offended, just as I hope that I have not offended you in asking them. Its just that someone on this site might be able to help.


“Fear not the soul of a poet, for it is yours to develop, to keep, and to use.” Words of OldWiseOne, 2007.



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 8:01pm

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HB says "School Board President Tobi Jones said she believes the school system has paid most of its outstanding lawyers fees, but the Bells’ repayment would likely have to be worked out with Rubright." ACS can forgive this debt without the permission of their attorney.


“Fear not the soul of a poet, for it is yours to develop, to keep, and to use.” Words of OldWiseOne, 2007.



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 8:01pm

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Originally, it went to court for an injunction to stop the uniforms before they were enforced, so that a real investigation into the constitutionality was made.  The Attorney for ACS moved it to Federal Court, forcing them to plead a complete case, rather than just requesting an injunction.  I don't know all the legalities of it, I just know that what they were forced to do, was more than they were going after at the beginning.  I've read where people thought that they were going for some kind of monetary damages.  That one makes me scratch my head.  Never was there a thought for monetary gain on the part of the Bell's.  It was Laura Bell thinking that she was doing something good for the community and that it would earn her respect.  The sad thing is, Scott had respect, a lot of it, from our peers in the community. She has changed all that.

My 26 year old commented today that all she has done is turn him into a jerk.  Interesting coming from a child he raised to adulthood.



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 8:02pm

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OWO, I am sure they could have gotten advise from legal ad or paid 50.00 to 100.00 bucks for advice from an attorney and not hired an attorney to handle their case. Excuses are like you know what and everybody has one. Sorry your argument still does not wash.



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 8:30pm

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I coming back-at-cha, CF; gimmie a sec here...


“Fear not the soul of a poet, for it is yours to develop, to keep, and to use.” Words of OldWiseOne, 2007.



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 8:42pm

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Colts Fan wrote:
OWO, I am sure they could have gotten advise from legal ad or paid 50.00 to 100.00 bucks for advice from an attorney and not hired an attorney to handle their case. Excuses are like you know what and everybody has one. Sorry your argument still does not wash.

My argument does indeed wash if you were to add compassion into the mix. Why can't you add that into the discussion. I know that you do indeed possess a tremendous amount of compassion, and it is definitely needed here. Yes, they could have hired an attorney for advise, but that would have been insufficient to prepare the entire case. Even so, I read somewhere that the federal judge offered then the assistance of an attorney, but the Bell's did not accept that offer. Bad mistake. But isn't that what this is all about? A Big Bad Mistake? Are we so parochial (limited in range or scope, provincial, narrow) now that we shall enjoy seeing them thrown to the lions and tigers and bears? Yes, maybe they slipped, unintentionally, into the tiger pit, but should not we want them to get out of it? Come on CF, I would be the first to help you out of that pit, even if you stupidly stumbled into it, which, by the way, I know you never would.


“Fear not the soul of a poet, for it is yours to develop, to keep, and to use.” Words of OldWiseOne, 2007.



Thu, 12/27/2007 - 9:22pm

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Maybe that time is coming, but it has not yet arrived when objective people will see that the fight that the Bells took against ACS is really no different that the fight that others take against the HB. Both are big powers, and are expensive to fight, and neither is always right. Merely because the Bells chose a different battleground does not make it a different battle. Some people agree that uniforms were bad; others disagreed. ACS is financially powerful, as is the HB, and an occasional challenge does everybody a world of good. If the case had stayed in the Madison Circuit Court, Judge Spencer may not have ruled in the Bell’s favor, but they would not have been blasted by Spencer as did that message-sending federal judge. What, you now have to have a law degree in order to express your rights? If ACS really stumbles – as it was thought by some in this case – who, then, will stand up to them. What good are constitutional rights if you cannot do anything when you feel yours have been violated?


“Fear not the soul of a poet, for it is yours to develop, to keep, and to use.” Words of OldWiseOne, 2007.



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